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K. John: Meeting need to change to valuable for all of us, I don't know what the purpose anymore of this meeting, I think to be valuation for all of us, I come here for encouragement, this K. Sakrin meeting so we need to see what we can do, to get consistency what is reported and why, that should be reason why we should here, somehow we need to think about what make sense of operation meeting and design what we race the flag, right now how we present and what we present I ask you to answer this question it is for finish that purpose, PDCA we plan, we done operation meeting, change the format change and adjust make what make sense
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